https://www.africanamericanheritageandculture.org/oral-history-library/episode-28%3A--st-joseph's-missionary-church-and-school 2023-01-27 https://www.africanamericanheritageandculture.org/oral-history-library/episode-28%3A--%22st.-joseph's-missionary-church-and-school%3A--an-interview-by-new-bern-historian-bernard-george-with-new-bernian-rick-fisher 2023-01-27